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random thoughts about orchestral life

Here are ten random thoughts on life in an orchestra.

  1. A music director need not live year round in their place of employment to be effective. Really. If they are managed well when they’re in town, they’ll seem to be everywhere at once, and everyone who wants a piece of them will get them. Can we just stop this nonsense about how great it was that Jimmy had a ‘full time’ residence here. He had an apartment at the KOIN tower, and he was gone a lot. It may have been his home base, but he spent a lot of time in Quebec and other parts of the world (including Monte Carlo) during his time with the orchestra.
  2. Why is it that people in the string sections randomly tune during the A for the winds? I learned in youth orchestra that you only tune when the concertmaster tunes – not before. Do we need a refresher course?
  3. How come people with hearing aids don’t hear them wildly screeching feedback during quiet portions of concerts? I can hear it from 100 feet away. The best handling of this situation was when Andre Watts was starting to play the slow movement of the Beethoven Fourth piano concerto. He stopped, turned to the audience and said “The person probably doesn’t even know this is happening – if you’re sitting near them, can you just tap them on the shoulder and let them know?” Problem instantly solved. Now we just glare in the general direction from the stage.
  4. Playing Beethoven symphonies is one of the most rewarding parts of being an orchestral player. I know, those of you in orchestras with twenty or more subscription weeks are probably sick to death of Beethoven, but here in Oregon we get through the cycle in about ten years instead a couple years like you do. Last night’s performance of the Pastoral Symphony was so ‘right’ and full of joy that it reminded me of why I became a musician in the first place.
  5. The Oregon Symphony has one of the best wind and brass sections of any orchestra. It’s true. They inspire me every day.
  6. Our orchestra has such a fluency with the Classical style these days. It gets remarked upon by guest conductors every time they come here. Most recently, Michael Francis talked to us about working with the specialist John Eliot Gardiner with the London Symphony, and he said we had a very natural way with playing in the Classical style, much like they’d learned to do there. We’re lucky to have a music director who is at ease in different facets of making music.
  7. It’s easy to point out a problem, but very difficult to devise a solution.
  8. Sitting at the inside, center portion of the stage for the Beethoven Sixth this week is fun. I like being closer to the second violins and right in front of our stellar wind section.
  9. William Walton writes really difficult music. We’re playing his Partita next weekend, and it is a finger buster! You thought we had to work in the Nielsen Sixth? This gives it a run for its money!
  10. Carnegie is only one month away! Yes, on Tuesday, it will be exactly one month until we make our Carnegie Hall debut. It’s so close, but yet feels so far away. It will feel much closer once we start our rehearsal period for that concert. Gulp!

11 replies on “random thoughts about orchestral life”

Haha, I always wondered about number 2 listening to various pro orchestras. In amateur orchestras you get told off, and as a flautist it is very annoying trying to hear yourself above violins noodling around. I just thought I was too inexperienced to be able to tune with them messing around too.

#1 – seriously… if we want a world class orchestra our door/hearts have to be open to the world. if we want to sound like a “best in region” community orchestra then let’s chain the MD to PDX. we don’t expect portland trailblazers to live in PDX in the off-season…

#2 – do you want me to post names of tonight’s violators? 😉

#6 – like the LSO w/ JEG? that’s quite a compliment from Francis!

what about the chronic clapping between movements on saturday? Koh’s Barber was ruined for me. there was a guy a few rows away who was looking around trying to get others to clap after the first movement & *wouldn’t* stop clapping… i swear i almost leapt over 5 rows and punched the guy. — in the spirit of your #7 sometimes when the outside 1st vln & viola players lean forward with an arm outstretched as if to turn the page the audience is less likely to clap… i’ve observed this a couple times – even if there isn’t an actual page turn (it might have been peter… when i noticed this). i also thought maybe one of those light up “Applause” signs found in TV studio audiences might work…

as always – thanks for sharing Charles!!!

I certainly agree with numbers one and five. Your comments regarding playing Beethoven symphonies are interesting. Being a non-musician, I cannot speak to what it is like to play Beethoven symphonies, but as a listener, I suffer from Beethoven (and Bach and Mozart) fatigue. When I first started listening to classical music seriously, I had friends who had been listening to classical music for a long time. I could not understand why they did not like Beethoven and Mozart. Their music seemed so outstanding as to be above criticism. Every time I heard the scherzo movement of Beethoven Nine, it sent chills up my spine. Unfortunately, I now find myself in a position similar to that of my friends. It seems as if all the freshness of those composers has been wrung out by constant repetition, especially on classical radio stations. I certainly enjoyed the Pastoral Symphony I heard yesterday afternoon and it was very well played. However, the magic that was there when I first heard it is no longer there.

I have hearing aids, and my experience is that they tend to screech like that in response to difference sounds at specific frequencies. I used to get that problem with my old hearing aids in reaction to the recess bell in grade school. It’s kind of a bug–most hearing aids are digital these days, but you still see analogue sometimes, and I think it’s the analogue ones that you find this problem in. I think it’s inherent in the technology. Most of us are aware and understand that hearing aids do that, but there’s not a whole lot we can do about it. They also screech if you try to muffle them against something, and I can hear that when I’m wearing it without any problem (it sounds like an alien spaceship landing). When I hear others complain about this “screechiness”, it makes me want to point out that deafness involves both decibels and frequency, and it is entirely possible that the sound is at a frequency that the person simply can’t hear. I agree that it is a very frustrating sound, and I can imagine how it would interfere with someone not enjoying a musical performance. I hope this explanation helps a little.

I have hearing aids too, and agree with Kate. The new digital ones are much better. Since my last switch I have much less problems during my own flute playing.

There is not much I can do when attending concerts, since I don’t really know if there will be an issue with screchiness or not beforehand. Usually, it’s not a problem, but in very loud portions, and if I am unlucky to sit in a spot that causes the frequency cominations to be extra bothersome, there might be.
When there are complaints and I defnitly believe it is not my hearing aids that are the problem, I still get very unsecure and feel pressured to turn off my aids, just in case. Even if, for example, the presenter who adresses the audience looks towards a completely different part off the audience.

I have a very good conference microphone for work, that communicates with the hearing aids through radio, and which might be an option for concerts. Since you do not use the microphone in the hearing aid, the feedback loop that causes the screechiness is interrupted, I assume. The conference mikrophone has a music listening

I’ll tackle No. 7. This is so very true in any organization. I applaud you for your constructive voice. My aunt used to say if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all. My take on that is that if I don’t want to contribute to the solution of a problem perhaps I should temper my response.

And for No. 10. Voice from the Couch and I will be there and wouldn’t miss it.

No. 9. I’m looking forward to the Walton.

Totally agreed about Beethoven! His music is so … human? Another commenter mentioned listener burnout. I have had it happen to me as well, but find that the passage of time helps with some pieces. Others require being receptive to the possibility of hearing/learning new things, even though the piece may be one you’ve heard a thousand times.

Re #2: In one of my orchestras, we’ve had the opposite issue and tuned “strings first” for years, because we could never get the winds and brass to shut up during “our” A.

Re #3: Most people with hearing loss lose the high frequencies first. The screeching of the hearing aid is exactly in the register that they can’t hear any more. Watts was right; they genuinely don’t know.

Regarding #3, that is only partly correct. There are different kinds of hearing loss usually categorised based on which part of the auditory system is damaged. High frequencies are usually lost first when the hearing loss is caused by old age and high noise levels. However, many people have hearing losses for other reasons. Myself, I have a sensorineural hearing loss that is hereditary and to the most extent affect the frequencies in the speech spectrum. (Which of course is annoying since those frequensies are important for both music and speech.)

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